Comment: Are these coins really worth $1200 each??? The modern forgeries are meant to deceive collectors.Dr. It looks slightly different than that edge. Real mexicano. They are basically just a telemarketer. Sort by 1832-Mo NGC AU 55 Mexico 8 Reales Cap Rays Silver Dollar Coin (23042202C) . Comment: [email protected]. 1948 Dollar - Can Anyone Grade My Purchase? Here is his reply -. "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. who want to buy? Comment: This is a fake! I don't whether the company whose plastic it is housed in honors their product sales. Pay close attention to the lettering as opposed to the bust details, particularly paying attention to the hair of the bust. 1882-As ML 8 R As22 I hope NGC has or will implement a similar process for 8 reales that they review. None of the TPG's seem to actually say Counterfeit except in the case of well documented Numismatic Forgeries that were recently made using incorrect technologies. We all know silver isn't magnetized.. mine stuck to the magnet Luckily I didn't give much for the lot. Click on "Shop" to search for the coin on eBay. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. It was a traditional symbol of the Aztecs, but it was changed according to European heraldic traditions (see Coat of Arms of Mexico). Other diagnostics are known and the serious 8 reales collector should become familiar with them. Is an uneven strike between the bust and lettering a good enough indicator that a coin is fake? My first impression is the edge is wrong. I just sent an offer of $65 for the coin which is based on it being sealed inside the original America's First Silver Dollar holder. -. While earlier I agreed with Swamperbob that this might be an example of edge clipping (silver stealing), with a new edge pattern added after, in the light of new evidence there is now a problem with that conclusion. Last month Mike published an article in Numismatic News (October 6, 2015) which mentioned me by name and raised the topic of Third Party Grading services encapsulating these same forgeries. Counterfeit (Fake) (Numismatic Forgery) 1882 Zs Js 8R Mexico - Coin Que clase de planta es el nogal. Falso/Nachguss. You're holding in your hand right, I found something similar in a mixed bag of foreign coins. These can be identified by careful examination of the design details as well as measurement of weight and specific gravity. KM37712 Denomination as 8Rs 1835 Pi JS. Click on "Shop" to search for the coin on eBay. Lettering: A vote of "no decision" is virtually a code for counterfeit. I've seen some extremely deceptive and dangerous contemporary forgeries of those that would easily fool a collector new to these coins. 1982 Lincoln Memorial Cent Large Date Zinc - Serious Plating Blisters One Dollar 1795, In Bad Condition. NOTE: Colloquially known as "Crystal rays". Agreed - the cactus is redesigned, and the reverse with a rising sun over water is wrong. FREE SHIPPING available in the USA! PCGS | If the coin were genuine then the mintmark, M with the small o above, would indicate Mexico City. In some cases, NGC has made adjustments or edits to the prices, descriptions and specifications. If you're interested contact me. En la siguiente ficha encontrars las principales caractersticas numismticas de esta moneda: ceca, ao de acuacin, dimetro, tirada, peso, material de fabricacin y tipo de canto. Are you kidding? In that case the dies would be real, it would be mint made and issued so the coin would be considered REAL but debased. Gollum those illustrations are very helpful, ill actually keep those for future reference. Also, the contrast of the strikes for the bust and the lettering offer a little bit of insight. There were no Mexican 8 Rs made with assayer initials JJ until 1814. 8+ Ounces Silver From Norway, Collection Of Coin Fold/Holder For Sale (Prefer To Sell All To One Person), For Sale: 1911 George V Coronation 8 Coin Silver Proof Set, For Sale: 5 Sovereigns; 1907, 1908 And 1910, For Sale: UK 2020 2 Silver Proof Queen's Beasts White Horse Of Hanover 1 Oz Ag, For Sale: Die Varieties Of United States Large Cents 1840-1857, For Sale: Silver Eagles, 40% Silver Kennedy's And 50 Pence, For Sale: 2023 Tuvalu Proof Baby Rabbit Colorized Perth Mint 1/2 Oz Ag 50 Cents, Coin Community Selling Rules - Updated Feb 23 2023. 8 Reales - PCGS Population Report 8 Reales 1882 Opinions Wanted! Legit or Fake??? - TreasureNet The Mexican 8 Reales - Etsy In case anyone's interested, here's a link to a discussion in The E-Sylum of Swamper Bob's book from when it came out in September 2014: I found his assertion that the coins had been made for the China Trade long after they were originally minted very comparable to the Maria Theresa Thaler, which, as we know, was made by a number of mints for trade in Africa long after it was originally minted. Any Quantity. . Nutmeg Coin, October 15, 2015, I listed this 1809 8 reale recently on ebay and an apparent expert on counterfeits on these contacted me showing interest: http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Reales-1809-MEXICAN-VF-IN-PRESENTATION-CASE-/231720543496?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123. However, 8 reales coins continued in production until 1897. Collectors.com - Coins - Colonial (Milled) - 8 Reales If I am not mistaken, the 8's struck in Spain had a totally different edge type from their colonial counterparts.

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